Tuesday, January 27, 2015

VA - ACLU: New sex offender bill 'invitation to throw stones'

Throwing stones
Original Article

01/20/2015

By Chris Thomas

RICHMOND - A house subcommittee unanimously passed a bill which would require registered sex offenders to have public hearings before gaining access to Virginia schools.

The delegate behind the bill says its a step to protect children, but civil rights organizations say the bill goes too far.

"I certainly would like to know who is being granted access to these public school systems," said Delegate Jeff Campbell (R-6th) who is introducing the bill and is the parent of school-aged children. "I understand the concern about this, but it's really not an attack on the sex offender themselves."

HB1366 would require registered sex offenders to advertise their public hearing in the newspaper for two weeks. Anyone attending the hearing could testify against the request to gain access to the school. Some civil rights groups are already coming out against the bill saying it could lead to angry mobs.

"It's essentially an invitation to throw stones," said Claire Gastañaga with the ACLU of Virginia. "Having a public hearing before you can go to visit your child's teacher? Tell me, what's that supposed to accomplish? I don't see what it accomplishes, other than inviting an angry mob into the school."

Del. Campbell disagrees with that assessment.

"It is certainly not going to prohibit the offender from being able to petition the court and gain access," he said.


35 comments :

Jason Sanders said...

Every parent needs to be able to visit their child's school regardless at a moment's notice. And why are registered citizens suddenly deemed supernatural powers. It really is that easy to infiltrate a school and cause terror? It's probably not a good idea to have children attend Virginia schools then . . .

Jason Sanders said...

The man behind this bill, is perhaps, a sex offender himself? Something doesn't add up here. This entire bill smells of "hidden agenda."

Jason Sanders said...

Man wants to dehumanize the sex offender, make everyone aware of there actions. Who knows what's next.... a broadside on the side of your car saying I am a sex offender.... lets don't give them any ideas but common sense is ...... these law makers don't have any love in there heart for their fellow man or their neighbor.....oops a sex offender can't live beside a lawmaker or even rub shoulders with one as that would be a violation

Jason Sanders said...

thanks for writing. Story like your encourage us to KEEP fighting.
You did not GIVE UP !! Good JOB! Pls do let us know how you are doing from time to time.

Jason Sanders said...

I'm glad that you are still updating the blog even if it isn't as frequent as in times past. Keep up the good work.

Jason Sanders said...

thank you for saying what you said because as a sex offender myself, I am judge the same as all the other sex offenders with worst sex crimes than mine and think the laws should be changed because I have a lifetime of registering and don't think its far and this should be for the ones who are forever a high risk to everyone not the low risk offenders. I hope one day the laws will change and I am able to have this removed from my record and be free. I cant get a job, not even a temp service job because Kansas laws has caused companies to not want to hire if they know you are a sex offender and I can under stand some places but factory jobs this is not right. this is why we have so many homeless people because no one will help all ex-con just the ones they think are worthy and they miss out on having a very good worker on there hands. I pray for the laws to change for the offenders who never get into trouble again to be able to have there record expunged and be able to start there life over fresh.

Jason Sanders said...

I wish they wouldn't hide their twitter button in the comment section

Jason Sanders said...

This is already happening to some. I cannot seem to find the article on this blog, but an old man was forced to put a sign on the sides of his car stating that he is a sex offender and also a sign in his yard.

Jason Sanders said...

Here is a real hard one. Let the principal know that parent____ is an offender but has to seethe teacher concerning the child. Then, there can be a safe meeting place for the student, parent, and teacher to meet. Problem solved. No wait, let's do it the way good ol' Jeffy wants to, this way the bill can tie up the legislature for weeks on end, cost the tax payer untold $$$$$ to implement this completely insane piece of garbage "law," then even the other school kids can get involved in persecuting the student who has to have parent come to school after public hearings, court actions and such. I suspect after all this the parent has to go through and the length of time it will take to process all of these hearings and court actions, the student will have, at the very least, graduated from high school. And good ol' Jeffy will win - won't he?

Jason Sanders said...

"Sex offender," "beast," "perv," "Monster," "Lurker," "predator," "rapist," "pedophile." These are some of the names pontificated by the press, radio, TV, news papers, magazines for decades, and the neighborhood self-righteous, the POLICE, District Attorneys, ad nausea. With this said, does anyone really, really think that we should stop labeling people sex offenders? How doies anyone get into the soul and heart of the American public and alter their process of perception of how sex offenders are called sex offenders? For me, I am not to optimistic. Labels such as these above, are as old as Adam and Eve. "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against powers. principalities and spiritual wickedness in high places. . . ."

Jason Sanders said...

Now let us all start calling the cops in Florida "LAW ABUSERS." Because they are abusing the law and there is no one giving an account. And think of all the $$$$$$$$$$ the cops will rack up with all of these arrests of entrapment.

Jason Sanders said...

Well, I am waiting to read how many wiull bitch about this case sin ce the Warrant was faulty to begin with. This is what happens when police try to make end-runs around proper procedure. The judge however - I believe saw all of this and knew the defense lawyer would have traveled up to the appeals process and the higher court would have done the same as the lower court judge. Therefore, the lower court judge in my view was solely concerned about being reversed in the higher courts so he was "compelled" to act. Now in my years of running the legal hallways, judges are painted into a corner then they act. This case was, in reading the entire article, so blatant of a legal error under the Fourth Amendment and perhaps the state search and seizure laws, the judge had no choice but to kill the illegal evidence. Now, if any of you are so trapped in the criminal legal system, don't you wish the Fourth Amendment would work for you? Or will I read the crap about a "LOOP-HOLE" once again and foirever reading from the news and media about a technical error which was not technical at all.

Jason Sanders said...

Hey Tim: here is an old adage for you: "do as we say, not as we do." With all of the secret Washington "pedophiles" "lurking" in federal government, I am not surprised at this article. There is much more to this I suspect, but the public will have it hid from them as so, so many other Washington under age scandals happen. Just look at the federal DOJ reports about how many DOJ computers are used to "view" child porn!

Jason Sanders said...

You know I didn't think sex offenders were allowed to pick up kids at schools or go on school property anyway. I guess in emergency's I guess that's possible but going thru all that. Why not give them a green cards. All this is a bit too far above simple common people. I guess you have to be in government to have more super intelligence. Remember knowledge comes by being in government and not common sense knowledge

Jason Sanders said...

Mark you may have something, of course there is always going to be labels, even Jesus labeled some as a Perverse Generation. Sure those on the registry hold a stigma but a stigma is a mind thing. Sure government's are a perverse generation and they don't have any love in them. There inside's are shallow and they can't accept the Spirit of Truth, they don't know how to forgive as they are a proud people and we all need change. Don't you know God chose the foolish things in this world to compound the wise.

Jason Sanders said...

KUDOS! Yes he has! But as in Matthew 24:10, Jesus himself said that in the LAST DAYS, "many will be offended, and the LOVE of many will grow cold." (emphasis added) I rest my case James.

Jason Sanders said...

"For he is the minister of God to thee for good" Are we doing evil when we are set up by police in these operations and there con games they play Florida is no.1 leader I think in these sex sting operations. The thing about these operations is they don't do them in a teenage chat room as that is who they are suppose to be protecting. Do it in a teenage chat room you spineless hypocrite's.

Jason Sanders said...

I hope that the women that jump all over this have the children put on the registry.

Jason Sanders said...

Just think what American’s are doing to the people that have the misfortune of being on the registry. When people are caught up in these undercover internet sex scheme’s that are conducted in a not, Politically correct environment.
Police should be ashamed of themselves and the American public is lead to
buying into all this hype about the sex offender because Sex sells in media today.
If anyone needs to protest about the way people are being treated its the sex offender and the one’s that haven’t really touched any of those little one’s. Yes police are suppose to protect and serve but are they really protecting the adult in an adult chat site when they pose as a teenager. There is only one think I can think of why an adult would go into a teenage chat room and talk to little girls. The United States should use some political sense and start correcting itself.

Jason Sanders said...

I have to sympathize with all you guys. I know sex is a powerful drug or weapon and it can control one if you let it. While most have real victims and some have fake victims that are set up all in the name of justice its a bad combination all around.
While my circumstance was fictitious in nature it is what it is. Sure one is taught lesson's from each experience one has in life but to carry the label Sex Offender the rest of one's life is a bit to much and hard to sometimes bare especially when one goes to apply for a job or some other thing like that.
In a private life setting one doesn't have to tell anyone anything but if you let the stigma of the sex offense get to one than that's your fault. Forgiving is nature that God talks about. While worldly men are not forgiving they will get there just punishment in the last days.

Jason Sanders said...

I have a Question? I've tried to find some answers but haven't come close to what I want to know or hear yet.
So my husband is just about to be released from prison for his 1st violation as a sex offender on parole. He was falsely convicted of sexual assault in 2006. He did his time and was released on parole in March of 2014. We met shortly after his release. We fell in love and well continue to fall in love every day.... so part of his conditions of release was no contact with minors. Well I have 2 children. And yet we both knew he was not supposed to be around my kids, it ended up happening. He was planning on staying the night one night back in September, because my kids were at thier Dad's. My youngest one ended up having to come back before expected. It was late in the evening and we were already almost asleep and just said hell with it. Woke up in the morning and brought my daughter to school. My husband brought me to work and dropped me off and that's the last time I've gotten to kiss him for months. 13 more days and I'll get to kiss him finally and then some!! But anyways, my husband being more than honest ended up telling his Agent shortly after he dropped me off. My husband called me n told me what happened. His Agent violated him and threw him back for being honest and his 1st violation. He got 150 days and ECRC raised him to a level II risk. Plus he will have to be on ISR for the next year, living with his Father, because I have children.
Well just a few days ago I got served with papers from my ex husband for custody modification. We have joint right now, and he is requesting full physical and full legal because he claims I am not thinking in the best interest of my 13 year old daughter to bring a sex offender in my house. Well CPS already investigated this whole issue and ended up closing the case because they did not find that I was a risk to put my children in danger again. Also with him being on ISR at his father's home he won't be at my house, and he will not be able to live with me for at least a year. Plus I am a sexual assault response team member and I am a survivor of child molestation from ages 3-10. And age 26-27 I was drugged with a 3 man tag team rape. So I know a little bit about sexual assault.
I'm just wondering if anyone knows how hard it will be or how easy it will be for my ex husband to be granted full custody of our daughter?

Jason Sanders said...

Registered citizens

Jason Sanders said...

It does one good to talk about these issues but it also does good to make a difference not just for one S.O, but for all. This person in their post is going thru a hard battle so is everyone affected on here because of what... this sex registry....I will be on the registry the rest of my life for my petty offense and others on here will be on the registry also. But what about society they are accountable to God. Sire anyone can change but man doesn't want to back down and admit there faults with this registry.
I'm sure they never dreamed of the problems the registry would have, they just wanted to get it in place because of a few outcry's from this Megan case and Walsh case and a few others. And now they have society in a panic and still don't want to admit there faults. Government doesn't know what the bible is much less the lawyers of today if they did they would use biblical principals. So for the life time S.O. be bold and stand up for what is right and God would want you to stand up for what is right. Sure I made a mistake we all did.. God is forgiving.... Man is Not.

Jason Sanders said...

Even that euphemism sound 1935 Germany.

Jason Sanders said...

It all depends on the court and what state you live in. I think each state is different. However, I'm sorta in the same situation from my post that you commented on. Someone called CPS on my girlfriend because of my sex offender status all because I helped by babysitting her daughter. I never harmed my girlfriends daughter in any way. I have no probation or restrictions of any kind and now my girlfriend had to move out to where her ex husband lives because he didn't send their daughter back to her mom at the end of last summer, and now she has to fight to get her back while I'm stuck here without my girlfriend

Jason Sanders said...

>leonard ray, I too am a sex offender who lives in Kansas. after my release from prison 10 years ago I obtained training in welding and automotive repair and still cannot find a job as menial as washing cars or flipping burgers. its ridulous...running outta options too so I feel your pain

Jason Sanders said...

I am ashamed of this country,the human race. Yes, I know what I would do with the american flag! When most do not care about the problems of sex offenders or others in the situations in there life. It's shameful period. your not given a chance.
I was brought into this world by two people that did not care for me, beat me,isolated me from others. I lived in the country, on a farm. I was abused starved, hated, called the devil, dumble. being isolated from family,neighbors,and society. I lived on a farm, Mother did not want to see me in her site, kept away from the farm work so I wouldn't be seen. having a lot of siblings, we are not close at all. We all have are problems now. Being on the sex offender list taught me what I was told when I was growing up. Government, people with authority are doing this injustice for there own gain. I lost interest in seeing my own son and my grandkids. I have been destroyed by are justice system, not wanted, My mother was very mentally ill, Whats is are country excuse, It's getting elected into office, with hatred with it.

Salty and Sweet said...

Here is a real life story. A man gets employment with Home Depot months after being released from prison for a sex offense. The man did eight years on a pleaded down charge from rape to child abuse. He gets promoted up the chain to Assistant Manager. No one knew of his conviction, not even Home Depot. Upon his release from confinement he was suppose to register as a sex offender but did not. Now young cashiers in the store are starting to complain of being harassed by the new Assistant Manager which forces Home Depot to investigate. Should he lose his job?

j bounds defoggi said...

Lies!

OMAR said...

It's not right at all if they allow this. The one who is going to suffer the most is the child who is attending that school. There is someone who knows who's dad or mom that is and therefore the entire school is going to know as well, therefore severely limiting that offenders child to have a productive learning environment. The country as a whole is against bullying in the schools, and yet this bill will promote and encourage it. So if the offenders child should happen to be pushed over the edge like most bullied children are and kills someone who should we blame or if they kill themselves who should we blame since they are both collateral consequences of the bill?

Justin said...

People who judge and condemn others have a lot about themselves to hide. Their bringing attention to the faults of others only means they have yet to confront their own shortcoming, or crimes, in this case. I think any former offender would be wise to realize the fact that it's best to stay away from those who judge and condemn others. It may be a bit lonelier, but in the long run, you're better off. Let's face it, America is NOT the country we were taught it is when we were kids. The greatest attrocities in human history have transpired in the name of "GOD" or some pretentious moral ideology. Don't give up! Hang in there and be a testament to the hypocrisy ruling our nation.

Nina Bartlett said...

good points

scott4402 said...

If it is true that most offenders will not re-offend, then yes we should stop labeling and requiring them to register, if they've simply committed a minor and or non-violent offence. It is extremely sad and shameful to think that we have allowed such individuals to be grouped in with the most serious violent offenders under the very same registry. I'm sure many individuals have been shamed, embarrassed and or humiliated way beyond what should have happened for the act that they'd committed. Human beings are very sexual creatures by nature, just look around on the internet at the countless number of people acting out sexually on the countless porn sites, Craigslist, etc... The reality is, most people want to point fingers at others when they are actually doing the very same thing behind the scenes, including those working in law enforcement. And most everyone knows it. We need to give offenders a fair and honest chance and not group the minor offences in with the much more serious predatory and or violent offenders. That's simply not right. And not a form of justice.

scott4402 said...

I heard California was even making people register as sex offenders, who had gotten get caught peeing on the side of the road. Now that really taking advantage of the public.

scott4402 said...

When they started arresting and charging young guys for being a year or two older than their girlfriends who weren't quite eighteen and charging them with rape of a minor, I knew we were on a slippery slope. With our nation being in such debt, we need to slash all of these unnecessary financial burdens created by greedy agencies, like the over bloated prison system and corrections department. By releasing all of those cases that don't involve a serious violent crime. And simply impose fines and work programs for such acts to bring in revenue, rather than continue to place the burden directly on the taxpayers.