Saturday, September 28, 2013

H.R. 2083: Protecting Students from Sexual and Violent Predators Act

NOTICE: It has been brought to our attention by a comment below, that they define sexual predator as follows (very bottom of the bill text):

"The term ‘sexual predator’ means a person 18 years of age or older who has been convicted of, or pled guilty to, a sexual offense against a minor."

This is clearly incorrect and needs to be fixed before this becomes law. See another blog post and opinion on this issue here.


Loneranger said...

After reading this and then several hours later went back and read it again. I find a few things disturbing. One is the definition of sexual preditor. By the definition they are trying to establish all sex offenders that have committed a crme against an under aged person are preditors. This is just wrong. However if allowed and overlooked this could become the standard to measure this. We need to be careful how laws are written as they tend to morph and change as well as influence other laws by setting leagle precedent in the language.

The entire law tends to ban anyone for life from working at a school for a multitude of sins. Maybe good maybe bad depending on the person they apply this to and it would be everyone. So lets take this to where it will go. You have teachers and other staff on down to the janitor. You have construction companies that come in under state contracts and even federal contracts that do work. You have vendors that provide food and other materials that run the schools. You have people that come in and check the electric meters and water meters. the list goes on and on for the companies that would need to fire employees to keep government contracts and provide services as they would denied these companies if they didn't comply. Are you kidding me? How many people do we want unemployed?
It never fails to amaze me how they can take what sounds on the surface as maybe a good idea and turn it into away to punish people who have paid their debt to society and gone on to be productive citizens. We can hope this will just die in committee however it does say sex offenders so I bet no one will touch the language.
Should be interesting to see how much dirty laundry will be aired as this goes back to the beginning of time for everyone that could be ensnared in this.
Frankly they have no idea who has something on their record that has been not so much over looked as excepted as it was years ago. They allow people to have jobs and they may have been working for years however new rules and your fired because of your past. But if it was just something simple like drugs over five years ago maybe that is ok. Are you kidding me? Really?
So I do hope for the sake of the families this will impact and the number of people that could lose their jobs I hope they just let this die. If not hang on for unemployment rates to go up as well as a shortage of teachers as well as other services as this runs much deeper then a background check on somebody that wants to coach fourteen year old girls softball.

Sex Offender Issues said...

We did not read the bill ourselves, just a quick glance to make sure it was about sex offenders, and you are right. Go to the very bottom of the document and you will see how they define predator, which is:

"(2) SEXUAL PREDATOR- The term ‘sexual predator’ means a person 18 years of age or older who has been convicted of, or pled guilty to, a sexual offense against a minor."

That is clearly not a correct definition and hopefully some lawyer will see that and have it fixed.

Mr. Logic said...

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound? Is something only a crime if you get caught, prosecuted and convicted?

According to this definition, what percentage of the US Population are "sexual predators"? What percentage of US Males?

Talk about watering down the term "Predator".

Mark said...

"The term ‘sexual predator’ means a person 18 years of age or
older who has been convicted of, or pled guilty to, a sexual offense
against a minor." It should state that a "predator" is one that stalks and grabs even strangers under age. Not a person who knows a potential victim. But this is the way the rats in the legislature work by being very crafty and sly with words, and phrases. They are truly sickening.

deathklok said...

Are they leaving the door open for those who plead "No contest"?

kitkatmissy said...

Let's start calling out all the legislators who cheat on their wives "predators" , put them on a public list and see how they like it. Changing the meaning of the word "predator" is a dangerous precedent. Predatory animals stalk, kill and eat their prey. Guys who have consensual sex with underage teens are not predators. A one- time offense does not make them a predator.