Saturday, January 5, 2013

NY - Journal News gun permit map endangers officers, officials say (So does the online sex offender registry!)

How does it feel to have to look over your shoulder all the time?

Welcome to the crowd of targeted individuals! If you put my life and family in danger, then your life should be put into danger as well. What is good enough for one group (ex-sex offenders) is good enough for everybody else. We should have an online registry, map and phone book for all sinners, in our opinion. And that graphic above, we made many months ago, but I guess we now have our answer! Vigilantism towards ex-sex offenders and their families is on the rise. So how many people must be murdered before you take the list offline?



Criticism of The Journal News, which published a gun permit database last month, broadened Friday with Rockland law enforcement officials saying the map listing the names and addresses of those with gun permits is endangering lives.

Inmates at the Rockland County jail are taunting corrections officers by saying they know the guards' home addresses -- information they got from the list published by Westchester-based newspaper, Rockland County Sheriff Louis Falco said.

"Since about 9:30 this morning, I've been in a meeting with my corrections officers and their unions. They have inmates coming up to them and telling them exactly where they live. That's not acceptable to me," Falco said at a news conference Friday morning in New City, where local leaders condemned the list.

Falco, along with other supporting police chiefs and county legislators, wants the paper to remove the information from its website.

"It's hurting law enforcement as a whole and it's directly affecting our ability to do our jobs," Falco said. "And then when we leave our jobs, we're going to have to defend our jobs and that's going to make for a very serious incident that's going to happen someplace in this county."

Robert Riley, a White Plains police officer who is president of the department's Patrolmen's Benevolent Association, agreed that the database is putting officers' lives at risk.

"My members are outraged," Riley said, noting that the potential dangers to law enforcement extend beyond Westchester and Rockland counties.

"You have guys who work in New York City who live up here," Riley said. "Now their names and addresses are out there, too."

Falco said there are 8,000 active and retired NYPD officers currently living in Rockland County.

The Journal News obtained the information of pistol permit holders in Westchester and Rockland counties through a Freedom of Information Act request after the massacre of 26 people -- 20 of them children -- in Sandy Hook, Conn., on Dec. 14. Putnam County has refused to turn over this information.

The interactive map, published Dec. 23, listed the names of about 44,000 pistol permit holders.

State lawmakers say they intend to introduce legislation to exempt the names and addresses of permitted pistol owners from being released to the public.

Calls to The Journal News Friday afternoon went unanswered. A message left on a newsroom answering machine was not returned.

In an article on the Journal News website, Janet Hasson, president and publisher of the newspaper, defended the decision. "New York residents have the right to own guns with a permit and they also have a right to access public information," she said.

If the online sex offender registry is okay, so is a gun permit registry!


whowrotewhat said...

A who has a gun permit and where do they live is an excellent idea and should be made national, just like the ex-sex offender registry. Here is why:
NRA et al argue that it is not the gun that is the problem, it is the person pulling the trigger. When a slaughter of children occurs the blame needs to be put where it belongs- on the crazy person pulling the trigger. Right behind him in the blame line is society who does very little to help the mentally ill until damage is done.
How many permit owners have a mental health issue? How many have a violent history that required a court to issue a restraining order?
So If I know someone in my neighborhood is a little crazy, I can now protect myself from potential harm if I know he also has a gun. That permit is a public record and the publicnhas a right to know.

Does society feel safe because of sex offender registries? These are people who have paid their debt to society, but are vulnerable to threats and harm from so-called law abiding citizens in vigilante mode.
If a list of ex-sex-offenders is OK, so should a list of all offenders, including those who own guns and are potential killers.
If you have a permit and have no mental healthnissue, whatyournproblem with public disclosure.

Loneranger said...

Well said. You might add that really the constitution doesn't apply as this is only regulatory. It is not a punishment but a necessary tool for law enforcement. Doesn't mater who might end up being published and private information released as this just might save one child. Or maybe 20 or 30 in one day. So what if the gun owners feel they are at risk. If they didn't own a gun they wouldn't need to do this. We can't be to careful. You know what they have said all a long. Better to be safe then sorry. It is completely with in constitutional restraints at least the judges that ruled on the sex offender registry made it appear so. Remember it's a slippery slope when you twist the Constitution to enact laws. Once president is set it's almost impossible to go back. So gun owners suck it up. Get used to the idea that you and your family are at risk as its a small price to pay to save that one child.