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Showing posts with label CarolMarkin. Show all posts
Showing posts with label CarolMarkin. Show all posts

Tuesday, September 20, 2011

CA - Man sentenced in Match.com online dating assault

Original Article

And Carol Markin claimed this man was a sex offender. Well, if he now has to register, that would mean he wasn't a sex offender, but is now. You can also see all the other related posts, by clicking the "CarolMarkin" link above. She is an author of several books on "Bad Dates," and apparently didn't take her own advice. I personally think it was a publicity stunt, but that is just me.

09/19/2011

LOS ANGELES — A Los Angeles man has been sentenced to a year in jail on his no-contest plea to sexually assaulting a woman he met through the online dating site Match.com.

Jane Robison, a spokeswoman for Los Angeles County prosecutors, says [name withheld] also was sentenced Monday to five years of probation and was ordered to register as a sex offender and complete a year of counseling.

Wurtzel pleaded no contest last month to one count of sexual battery by restraint.

Wurtzel met the woman through the dating website and they went on two dates. Prosecutors said that during the second date [name withheld] drove the woman to her home and followed her inside, where he sexually assaulted her while holding her down.
- Why would she let a man she hardly knows, into her home?  I think she needs to investigate bad dating again, or maybe common sense?

The woman settled a lawsuit against Match.com.


Tuesday, August 23, 2011

CA - Match.com reaches settlement with rape victim

Carol Markin
Original Article

08/23/2011

LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- The dating website Match.com reached a court settlement Tuesday with a plaintiff who had been raped by a site user.

Carole Markin sued Match.com after being raped by a man she had two dates with through the website. The man, Alan Wurtzel, is a convicted sex offender.
- I checked his name, when this originally came out, and he was not on any registry I checked.  So maybe he is a sex offender now, because of this case, but wasn't when she dated him, so this new invasion of privacy would not have prevented this rape.  Hell, she has several books out on the subject, so why didn't she take her own advice?  Anybody knows, or should know, not to invite someone you do not know into your home for God's sake.

Markin sued the Match.com alleging the site should have had background screening in place before allowing people to use the site.

As part of the settlement Carole Markin dismissed the lawsuit, which she did "with prejudice," and she gave up all rights to sue the company again for the incident.
- It's sad she was raped by someone, but it's also her responsibility to check people out before dating them.  So, are we going to now have all dating sites, social networks, and possibly all web sites required to do background checks?  Everybody wants someone else to blame, instead of themselves!

Both parties will bear their own court costs and attorney fees. The settlement stipulates that it does not constitute admission of liability by Match.com.

As part of the settlement, Match.com attorney Robert Platt read a statement aloud to the court Tuesday:

"As Match.com previously announced it would do, it is checking subscribers against state and national sex offender registries. The screening process continues to be refined."
- So, are you going to also check other criminal records for murderers, thieves, gang members, drug dealers, DUI offenders, etc?

"Although Match.com has no legal obligation to do this, for several years it has periodically evaluated the practicality of conducting such checks. Match.com now believes that a combination of improved technology and improved databases enables a sufficient degree of accuracy to implement this measure."

"Match.com continues to stress that while these checks may help in certain instances, it is important that this effort does not provide a false sense of security to our members. With millions of members, and thousands of first dates a week, Match.com like any other large community, cannot guarantee and is not responsible for the actions of its members."

"Match.com is a fantastic service, having changed the lives of millions of people through the relationships and marriages it has given rise to, but people have to exercise common sense and prudence with people they have just met, whether through an online dating service or any other means."

"When you go on a site like that, you do think of it as safe. You know people lie about their weight or their age, but you don't think they're going to lie about whether or not they're a sex offender," said Markin at a news conference after court Tuesday.
- People lie about their past all the time, and I'm sure she has once in her lifetime.  Maybe you should read your own books some time!

"We believe there's going to be a domino effect to other online dating services, and that Match.com, being the largest, is now agreeing to set a new standard and raise the bar higher," said Mark Webb, Markin's attorney.
- Yep, they are sliding down the slippery slope.  Pretty soon all sites will require your real name, and a background check as well.  Even if you've never done anything wrong, that should worry you, unless you are someone who thinks the government should be your baby sitter!

Markin said she was pleased with the settlement, and that she sued the company for the greater good, and was not seeking money.

Markin said she wanted the incident to be an example for other online dating sites, and that the crime against her was preventable.
- Yes it was, if she would've not let the person into her home, and if she would've done her own checking before actually dating the man.  But she's trying to pass the responsibility off to someone else, instead of herself.



Saturday, August 20, 2011

LA - Match.com Ordered to Prove it Screens for Sex Offenders

Original Article

08/19/2011

A LA Superior Court Judge said he wants proof that Match.com is living up to its screening promises.

A Los Angeles judge Friday ordered an attorney for the dating website Match.com to return to court next week with proof that the site has implemented procedures to screen members to determine if any are convicted sex offenders.
- What about screening for other crimes as well?

The Internet dating site was sued in April by Carole Markin, who said she was sexually assaulted by a man she met on Match.com last year. She later found out the man had prior sexual battery convictions.
- And Carole has several books on "Bad Dates (here and here)," also (See the video below, or the link above).

The man, [name withheld], 67, pleaded no contest Wednesday to sexual assault.

Markin sued to compel the website to implement some type of screening procedure, such as checking prospective members against a national sex offender registry.
- Like I said above, what about other criminals?  Like murderers, gang members, thieves, etc?

Match.com officials subsequently announced that they would screen new members. In court today, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Carl West said he wanted to see proof that the screening was in place.

"It's a very serious claim,'' West said. "If Match.com has adopted policies that are good for public, then everybody wins.''
- I disagree.  It's an invasion of privacy, and if they do not screen people against all criminal records, then it's also discrimination.

He said if the company provides proof of an operable system being used, the lawsuit would likely be settled. Markin's attorney, Mark Webb, agreed.

Match.com attorney Joseph Laska said the screening system is in place and he would bring the required proof to court Tuesday.

[name withheld] is facing 365 days in jail, five years of probation and lifetime registration as a sex offender when he is sentenced Sept. 19 by Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Barbara Johnson, according to Deputy District Attorney Jane Creighton.

A second count -- forcible oral copulation -- is expected to be dismissed after he is sentenced on the charge of sexual battery by restraint.

[name withheld] and the woman went out twice in 2010 and he sexually assaulted her after following her into her residence and holding her down after their second date, according to the District Attorney's Office.
- Why in the hell is she bringing someone she knows nothing about, into her home?



Friday, April 22, 2011

Matchmaking Sites Facing New Bills to Protect Online Daters

Original Article

How ironic, Carol Markin, who is suing Match.com for a bad date, has written several books on the same subject!

Just the usual knee-jerk reaction by politicians. So who is next? See here. I wonder if all these idiots who are okay with this, would submit to having a chip implanted under their skins "for the children" of course? I doubt it!

04/22/2011

By Greg Stacy

Matchmaking sites are facing bills in several states that would require the sites to warn consumers about the potential dangers of online dating.

The bills have been created in response to headlines about sex offenders who have been using the matchmaking sites to find their victims.
- In regards to the Carol Markin incident, it has not been through court yet, and we do not know what she says is indeed true. But nothing like jumping the gun, and eradicating peoples rights to privacy, for a little false sense of security!

Bills are currently pending in Connecticut and Texas. Connecticut's bill would require Internet dating sites to provide a notice that would appear during the registration process, warning online daters not to provide their last name, email address, place of employment, phone number or other identifying information in their dating profiles.
- So like the warning labels for idiots on food, blow dryers, etc, we must warn all the other idiots out there not to do this, when it's pretty common sense.

Similar laws are already in place in New York, Florida and New Jersey.

Legislation now in place in Texas requires online dating sites to announce whether they conduct criminal background checks on site members before they're allowed to contact other site members, with an additional requirement that the site has to remind online daters that criminals can sometimes slip through background checks.
- This is like the fine print on stuff, nobody reads it. The sites should not be responsible for this, the person should be. So much for holding people accountable for their own actions.

Lawmakers in New York are currently mulling a similar bill.

Online dating and social networking sites have increasingly been policing themselves. On Sunday Match.com announced that it would begin screening its users against the national sex offender registry. In 2009 MySpace announced that 90,000 sex offenders had been ID'ed and banned from the site.
- Nothing like discrimination! Why don't we kick off murderers, gang members, terrorists, etc?

Donna Rice Hughes, CEO and president of Enough is Enough, a Virginia- based nonprofit focused on Internet safety, told the Associated Press that these sites need to improve their safety measures.
- No, you need to stop trampling on peoples rights to privacy, and hold people accountable for their own actions. Sites need to start taking this kind of BS to court and DEFEND peoples rights to privacy, etc. Bowing down to pressure to save face, will hurt everyone in the end. Hell, let's make everyone, when they sign up for an internet account, go into a store, to make sure they are not thieves, submit to a background check first, and if they have any kind of record, deny then Internet access. Then let's see how quickly this is shot down!

"A good corporate leader needs to do that," Rice Hughes said. "The last thing they need for business is for somebody to get harmed by something through their site. ... They should be running their database against the sex offender registries. That's a no-brainer."
- For you maybe. But what about all other criminals who are more of a threat? Like gang members, terrorists, etc? Why not screen for all criminals, and if anybody has any record, kick them off? Fair is fair, right?

But there has also been some criticism of the new policies. Alex Vasquez, who founded the blog theurbandater.com, tells the Associated Press that the background checks are bound to be controversial.

"It's definitely going to be a hot-button item because there's definitely that privacy issue," he said.


Wednesday, April 20, 2011

Match.com should screen for sex offenders says lawsuit - My Cousin Adam

This is the last post I am doing on this Match.com issue.

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How ironic, Carol Markin, who is suing Match.com for a bad date, has written several books on the same subject!

This video IS available, not sure why it's saying it's not. Click the VIDEO LINK below.


What a good way to get publicity. Find a sex offender, set up a date with them, claim you were sexually assaulted, the man goes to jail/prison, she gets free publicity and attention on all the media channels. She gets a heroes welcome, and eventually, more money in her pocket book! But I'm just speculating! I am not saying this did or didn't happen, just questioning her motives. I've read she also has a reality show coming out, wonder what it will be about? Bad dates? Here we have someone who has written two books on bad dates, and yet she did not head her own advice in her books, nor the rules by Match.com, nor common sense!, and now she wants to scream and blame Match.com?

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Bad Dates: Celebrities (And Other Talented Types Reveal Their Worst Night Out) Markin is at the mercy of her contributors, so there is dross mixed in with the gold, but these 101 brief encounters could, collectively, persuade any rational person never to date again. Take, for example, actress Kimberly Russell's dinner with a man who admired the way she smelled (he claimed to have been a dog in a past life). Or lawyer Peter Nichols, who discovered at the end of an excruciating blind date that he spent the evening with the wrong woman altogether. Unfortunately, author James Ellroy did find the right blind date: she wore a giant crucifix and her first words were "I don't usually go out with un-saved guys, but my brother said you were tall!" And Alice Cooper relates his outing with Linda Blair to see The Exorcist: "It was sort of like 'The Addams Family' going to the movies." Occasionally a disastrous date ends happily--Anne Bernays marries Justin Kaplan despite her distaste for his choice of brains for lunch. Markin is an independent filmmaker, writer and artist. Photos not seen by PW.

More Bad Dates: And Other Tales from the Dark Side of Love From the author of "Bad Dates: Celebrities Reveal Their Worst Nights Out" comes these true-life tales from bad date survivors. The romantic misadventures recounted here range from the hilarious to the outrageous, from the bizarre to the tender.


Tuesday, April 19, 2011

Wal-Smart to start screening all shoppers against the sex offender registry and criminal records, starting May 1st, 2011

Original Article

THIS IS OF COURSE SATIRE!

04/19/2011

By Ben Dover

In the recent mass hysteria over the Match.com fiasco, where a lady hooked up with a person she claims is a sex offender and is on the California sex offender registry, Wal-Smart has decided it will, on May 1st, start screening everyone who visits the store against the online sex offender database, and against FBI criminal records.

In an effort to keep prices down, due to thieves, drug dealers/users, and other evil criminals, and to protect you and your children, they will start requiring this from all who want to visit their stores for their low, low prices.

So when you visit the local Wal-Smart, be prepared to hand over your finger prints and a blood sample, to the local greeter. They will not be using drivers licenses, because they can be faked, so everyone must submit to this security precaution, for your own protection.

Please be aware, this is for everyone's safety, and to prevent any lawsuits against us.

The TSA does it, Match.com is doing it, Facebook, MySpace and many other sites are doing it, so we are joining the bandwagon. Sorry, but it's for all of our protection.

Oh yeah, you will also be screened for ugliness. If you look like one of these folks, you will be denied entry!

Thanks for your cooperation and we look forward to seeing you real soon!


Why Match.com Effort to Screen Sex Offenders Won't Work

Original Article

It's just the usually expected knee-jerk reaction by Match.com, to put out the fire, and others to give themselves perceived safety. It won't work because not all sex offenders are known, and not all are on the registry, and if a true predator is wanting to harm someone, they will, they will make up some fake name, and sign on. It is nothing more than people freaking out, trampling on peoples rights, for "safety" which is just a placebo. No other criminal, not even serial killers, get this type of discrimination and punishment. Sex offenders are nothing more than the modern day leper/scapegoat. Just wait until one day your wife accuses you of sexual abuse, you will automatically be guilty!  So my question is, where are all those who "claim" to support the constitution and civil/human rights?  Where are they?

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04/18/2011

By Benjamin Radford

One of the world's top dating websites, Match.com, announced that it would begin checking its members against a national sex offender registry. The announcement was made about a week after a class-action lawsuit was filed against the company by two women who claim men they met through the service sexually harassed them.
- So why are they not filing lawsuits against the people harassing them?  Oh yeah, there is more money to be made in suing Match.com.

Whether an attempt to ward off future lawsuits or merely a publicity stunt, the measure is nearly worthless and in fact may do more harm than good by fostering a false sense of security. There are several obvious flaws with the plan.

The first is that users on social networking and matchmaking websites typically do not have their identities verified. Thus anyone (including convicted sex offenders) can post whatever name they wish to use on the site and easily avoid triggering a match on registries.

Even if Match.com members' names were somehow verified, names are very common. A match with a name on a sex offender registry would also require a matching address to be sure it's the same person. Anyone can rent a post office box (or use a friend's mailing address) to easily avoid triggering an alert. [Predator Panic: Reality Check on Sex Offenders]

Second, even if the information provided to Match.com was completely accurate, it may not match what's on the nation's sex offender registries, which are notoriously unreliable. A 2010 study of Vermont's sex offender registry found that half of the entries sampled contained significant mistakes and wrong information (see here and here), including two people who should not have been listed. Audits in other states, including Georgia and Texas, found that the registry information for offenders was often wrong, incomplete and outdated.

Third, statistics show that relatively few assaults are committed by convicted sex offenders. That is, a given person (adult or child) is far more likely to be sexually assaulted by someone who is not listed on any sex offender registry than a convicted sex offender. The vast majority of physical and sexual assaults are committed by friends, family and other loved ones, not a recently met stranger hiding a sex offense conviction. This is one of the fundamental flaws of Megan's Laws and other offender notification measures: They distract attention and resources away from the greater threat.

Even Match.com's president, Mandy Ginsberg, acknowledged that the new measures"remain highly flawed." The rules of safe dating have not changed in decades: Meet in a public place, tell a friend where you're going, and don't give out personal information too early.

Benjamin Radford is deputy editor of Skeptical Inquirer science magazine and author of six books. His website is www.RadfordBooks.com.


CA - Woman (Carole Markin) Suing Match.Com Over Alleged Assault Comes Forward

Original Article

See Also: Why Match.com Effort to Screen Sex Offenders Won't Work

So did she get a rape kit done? If not, why not? If so, what was the outcome of it? Turns out, she has several books out on bad dates. How ironic! See here, here and here.

04/19/2011

By ANDREW SPRINGER and ALEX STONE

TV Producer Carole Markin Says She's Tired of Hiding, Happy Dating Site Will Screen Members

The once anonymous woman who filed a lawsuit against the online dating website Match.com because of an alleged sexual assault has come forward to say she's glad her suit got results.

"I'm tired of hiding behind masks and glasses," said Carole Markin this morning on "Good Morning America." "I want to come forward and speak for the other Jane Does and Joe Blows who've been abused by sexual predators and give them courage to do something for themselves."

Last week, Markin, then only publically identified only as Jane Doe, filed the civil lawsuit asking a court to force Match.com to install a sex offender screening system that checks the background of those who register for the site.

The lawsuit had asked for a temporary restraining order that, if granted, would prevent new members from signing up for Match.com until such a program is instituted. It claims Markin and the man went on a date that turned violent.

The lawsuit said the man went to Markin's house after they had dinner last May and he forced her to perform a sexual act. [name withheld] was arrested and charged but no trial date has been set. [name withheld]'s attorney maintains the sexual encounter was consensual and a trail date has not been set in that case.

Match.com officials announced Sunday it will start to screen users against a national sex offenders registry.
- I have checked the California and National registry, which they claim they will be using, and this man is NOT on the registry, so how would FORCING this web site to check the registry, have prevented this?

In a statement issued to the Associated Press, Match.com President Mandy Ginsberg said the website did not implement the screening process for years due to the "unreliability of the database" but after reviewing recent improvements, the company has decided to begin the checks with current and new members.

"I was happy that they listened to us," Markin said. "They're obviously a little afraid of us." She said the company did not talk to her directly and that she has never had a conversation with Match.com officials.
- So what about all the other online dating sites, or hell, all web sites?  Are you going to start forcing them to check the sex offender registry so you can have some temporary false security?

Markin, a successful Hollywood executive and one-time investment banker, is now working as creator of new reality show. She said she was traumatized by the event and is in therapy.




Monday, April 18, 2011

CA - Match.com bans sex offenders -- feel safe now?

Original Article

See Also: Match.com to Screen for Sex Offenders After Lawsuit

Turns out, she has several books out on bad dates. How ironic! See here, here and here.

04/18/2011

By Tracy Clark-Flory

You shouldn't. The dating site's decision to bow to pressure creates a false sense of security

I suppose this should come as no surprise: Match.com has decided to start screening for sex offenders. As I reported last week, a Los Angeles woman filed a suit against the online dating giant after a man she met on the site sexually assaulted her; turns out he had a criminal record of repeated sexual battery. Match has always resisted such calls, but suddenly it changed course late yesterday, announcing that it would begin booting sex offenders from the site, and preventing any new ones from joining, within 60 to 90 days. So, what exactly has changed?
- We have all become a bunch of pansies, not wanting to take responsibility for ourselves.  So is the Wal-Mart greeter going to start asking for finger prints, blood samples and papers next, to make sure thieves do not enter their stores?  Or what about McDonalds, Toys R Us, and all other businesses?  Should they also screen everyone at the front door to make sure they are not criminals?  Why not?  Fair is fair, right?

For several years now, the company has argued that the available screening services are unreliable and could ultimately provide a false sense of security (which is also the tack I took in response to this recent controversy). On Sunday, President Mandy Ginsberg said in a press release, "In recent conversations with providers over the last few days, we've been advised that a combination of improved technology and an improved database now enables a sufficient degree of accuracy to move forward with this initiative, despite its continued imperfection."
- So now, they are going to check people against the sex offender hit-list.  So are they also going to check other criminal records to make sure someone is not dating a serial killer?

Now, there have been positive shifts in electronic data collection, to be sure -- but nothing revolutionary has happened on this front. I suspect the most dramatic change here is in Match.com's cost-benefit analysis of screening. Sure, that recalculation has something to do with technological advances, but you also can't overstate the P.R. liability of being in any way associated with sex offenders. Ginsberg herself notes, "While these checks may help in certain instances, they remain highly flawed." It isn't just the sex offender checks that are faulty; remember that domestic abusers, murderers and all other fun flavor of criminal are still welcome to join.
- So why do them then?  You say it's a false sense of security, but then you go and do this to help that false sense of security, and helping destroy peoples right to privacy.  This is just like that woman who ordered hot coffee from McDonalds, and then burnt herself by putting it between her legs, and is also why warning labels are on stuff.

Look, from a political and philosophical standpoint I disagree with banning sex offenders of all stripes, all of whom have served their time, from online dating. I also think it's irrational to single out this one breed of violent criminal above all others. Also note that the vast majority of sexual assaults go unreported. That said, this isn't about politics, philosophy or rationality -- as is so often the case with sex offenders, it's about making everyone else feel safe.
- Exactly, so what are they going to do when someone not on the registry, does the same thing?